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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby RNair » May 16th, 2012, 12:10 pm

At the numbers these strays roam around and breed and cause health threats they are the rodents themselves.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby kk27 » May 16th, 2012, 12:58 pm

I havent adopted few to my home cause of my mum (she only like animal kids), but I have paid to sterilize dogs in my area. in my own building a pair of dogs live with bucket loads of cats :). My GF has adopted 3 stray Dogs at her home & takes care of dogs in her area, her first step is to sterilize & vaccinate any dog she finds abandoned, most surprisingly pets!!! probably one reason I find her area dogs a little cocky..they kill cats & have quite a few dog fights too, though nothing towards humans as such. BTW she even takes care of any hurt animal & takes them to SPCA for treatment. Earlier SPCA would keep Stray Dogs (abandoned pets) but they've stopped this now, cause most never get adopted back. most of these pets are not sterilized & lead to new dogs, and SPCA never puts healthy Dogs or puppies to sleep.

I'm fully in support of sterilization that is the best way of controlling numbers not mindless killing. Even putting to sleep rabies laden or highly diseased dogs is good step cause not only does it put them out of misery but also saves others, which we have done a few times too.

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Well yes one may crash because of a dog, cause possibly stopping may not be an option always. Yes it's a bad thing to happen and putting out dogs may reduce the chances, so what to do of the crashes due to irrant drivers, surely we would want them to die but is that really a solution? so why have a different lens for an animal?

Yes I'm aware people die, they also die of because of Leopards here? how about the great white shark-a classic example of human sanity & what impact it had! What we need to understand is, if a Dog or any animal decides to really hunt humans down then you or me wont be able to fight back. Humans is not on the food menu for any animal. Also a Dog bite is an urban thing, reason you can deduce why.

This is the same attitude which Farmers & Villagers have against Tigers, Leopards & other carnivores which eat their cattle sometimes them too!!! So is Tiger, Leopard killing justified then? No right, use the same yardstick I say.

This is how life bounces friends, is eradicating everything which poses a risk or causes a problem a solution? is my only humble submission.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby RNair » May 16th, 2012, 1:01 pm

WHat is the statistics of human deaths and bites from the great cats compared to stray dogs? I think more humans have killed the big cats and not the other way. Where do you come with such comparisons? Again you brought in the motorists!

Did u read the statistics I provided earlier and other have provided.

Anyways I am done here. Got nothing more to add and the topic has been beaten down from both camps. Next time I see a child die from a stray dog bite I will make sure to hold you accountable at least in my conscience.

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby deepakvrao » May 16th, 2012, 1:30 pm

kk,

Expounding on what you and GF do for strays makes no bloody difference in the argument. Like Rajesh, I'm done here too. Only when one of you 'stray lovers' get affected, will you realize the dangers.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby bubbu64 » May 16th, 2012, 1:40 pm

deepakvrao wrote:Only when one of you 'stray lovers' get affected, will you realize the dangers.

Doc , you sure those stray lovers will survive to tell the tale if they get bitten by a rabid dog? :?
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby kk27 » May 16th, 2012, 2:12 pm

The day judicial system starts working for a common man in your backyard everything will fall in place. Right now your own lives is as bad as the dogs in your metros with no street hygiene in any of the suburbs.


Yes this is Bang on. but I say this is just not judicial rather a civic failure.

I'm bringing Cats or motorists not to say Stray Dogs are necessary for the society, I'm bringing them for a Yard Stick comparison. And this is the reason I Expounded on things that we do, cause we too believe that without Strays a lot many issues can be addressed, but that doesn't qualify to mindlessly kill them.

My question from beginning has been just this... Is mindless eradication of everything which poses a risk or causes a problem a right solution to it? There's always a better solution one just needs to find it & it's possible only with a level head.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby RNair » May 16th, 2012, 2:18 pm

It is not called mindless eradication. It is called responsible controlling. It helps their own quality of lives and others living around them in a civil society. Not asking for culling of the entire species. The fact that they are in such number roaming the streets is already our own mistakes.

And those loving them have done nothing to control their growth or improve the quality of lives. They are all walking around the city eating around garbage and posing threats. And that is great?

Just answer this why do you think you don't find 70,000 dogs in Rome, Paris or Moscow. They are all animal haters?

Sort of again what I have already said earlier. Need to get out of here :) Ciao! Again..
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby kk27 » May 16th, 2012, 2:24 pm

A simple solution: if there is really a problem dog you know of who is dangerous then inform an active NGOs in your area, "Ahimsa" for Bombay, they will also sterilize them.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby raknair » May 16th, 2012, 2:28 pm

More I read on this topic, I get a feeling that "killing" has been taken in literal sense. Like someone said before, I do not think anyone here want to get all those strays culled. I for one am fully against it. But I definitely do believe strays are nuisance, at least where I live. For some reasons, I noticed cycling has been unnecessarily dragged into it. If you come to Poonam Nagar, you will find people walking with a stick in hand in the evenings and early mornings. Kids no long play in the courtyard or building compound for the fear of getting bitten.

This discussion will go on forever. Sterilization is way but I doubt it has in anyway helped resolve the issue (again at Poonam Nagar and JVLR). You can see at least 10-15 puppies roaming around.

As for adoption, come on accept it. Not many folks will adopt a mongrel. It will not to add the magic of BB/Iphone, SUV, Spiderman sunglasses and other fashion accessories.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby kk27 » May 16th, 2012, 2:34 pm

An eradication should be last resort when nothings' worked? Sterilization can & will bring the populus down, problem is allocated fund is being used for MLAs dogs :)

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Adopting strays is a rare occurance, SPCA finds it highly difficult to get abandoned pets get readopted. Rak like I said you can inform Ahimsa about Dogs who are very aggressive, they will take care of it.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby RNair » May 16th, 2012, 2:42 pm

kk27 wrote:Adopting strays is a rare occurance, SPCA finds it highly difficult to get abandoned pets get readopted. Rak like I said you can inform Ahimsa about Dogs who are very aggressive, they will take care of it.


How many will they take care of when they are all in packs chasing people after dark hours? And that too city wide. You think we are talking about 10 dogs?

Did you not read the article above that said even the civic authorities ran out of space and had to let all of them go. ::cussing
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby punerider » May 16th, 2012, 2:50 pm

Ok here's a nice example of what KK is saying. A few months back in Koregaon Park, Pune , the municilapity van came to catch stray dogs. All the civil society dog-lovers stopped them. These guys complaint and the incident came in Pune mirror. The municipality guys had to back down. 2 months later a dog went rabid, bit 17 people due to which a maidservant died. Pune mirror did a nice job that day. They printed the old report and the latest news side by side. I doubt those dog-lovers who had stopped PMC from doing their work earlier would have even felt any guilt.

So KK your intentions are good but what's wrong in taking removing these animals from our streets in the first place? I don't hate dogs but i am not comfy with canines running around me in the city.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby SexJihaad9/11 » May 16th, 2012, 3:11 pm

raknair wrote:However harsh, sick, inhumane, disgusting it may sound, I for one definitely believe in having strays / feral terminated. Aggressive ones need to be put down. I have somehow felt that identifying and isolating aggressive ones and putting them to sleep is the solution. Man-eating tigers and other animals are put down. So why not aggressive dogs ?

Flame me now but this is my opinion and I stand by it.

raknair wrote:More I read on this topic, I get a feeling that "killing" has been taken in literal sense. Like someone said before, I do not think anyone here want to get all those strays culled. I for one am fully against it.



Way to stand by your opinion, dude..
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby raknair » May 16th, 2012, 3:16 pm

I have no problem if you pick and quote whatever I have to say just for the sake of doing it and of course like you said adding smileys to conclude. If you read (or like to read rather) you will notice that I said kill the aggressive ones and not the entire species. May be spend some more afternoon lunch hours to read whatever I wrote.

English is a silly language and like I said, internet views can be misleading.

"However harsh, sick, inhumane, disgusting it may sound, I for one definitely believe in having strays / feral terminated. Aggressive ones need to be put down" - it means cull the aggressive ones only. Unless of course if it can be interpreted in some other way.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby SexJihaad9/11 » May 16th, 2012, 3:27 pm

raknair wrote:One day for sure one dog will see its head smashed by me on the JVLR and I will show no sympathy :-D


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