protein supplement - HELP

[RNair]

I wish Saturated fatty food came with a list of warnings, health risks and side effects. I am 100% it would look far worse.

[kk27]

I'm not sure if drinking milk with a scoop of Protein powder after a workout is supplement!!! I sometimes switch it with a scoop of Chocolate powder. This was actually recommended to me by a Doc (who said since Indian diet is more or less veg based it's good to have Protein for individuals active in sports). He also said that it's good to have atlest 1 or 2 meat dishes in a week.

Rak - what Creatine powder you take? I take Protein powder made by Wockhard, tastes good and no after effects.

[Minkey Chief]

I'm taking a middle line here.

I can understand... Actually, I share the wariness about supplements like this, but at the same I'd be wary of making statements (a bit like the recent safety thread) that go: "Unless you train as hard as x/Do x miles a year, you don't need them/they are BS."

I completely agree that if they're starting out, nearly all riders don't need to worry about supplements. Just sort out your real food eating. I say 'nearly all' because some people start out like maniacs. I've just heard about a first year rider who won a beginner title in his first year, and then state in the second year, then national in the third! This is why I don't like making or reading blanket statements.

If you're pushing YOURSELF (not in relation to someone else), several times a week, and need to be well recovered from each workout, then protein powder can be a good tool to have around. Note that I'm not saying it's essential or that you dose on protein three times a day, but simply that it can be useful after the occasional hard/long workout, especially if you don't have a quality meal to eat in the 30min window.

On the bike and the 30min (or one hour, depending on who you're reading) window, are the two times you can worry less about processed foods, because that's when you need stuff to get into your system quickly. I have a long climb on Saturday, so I stocked up on some Hammer gels. I'd never normally buy or consume something like that--ours is a house with nuts and fruit for snacks. So in my mind that falls into the "supplement" category, and a few years ago I might have made blanket statements about it. But now, I have great respect for foods that get into your system quickly because they are lifesavers on the bike.

In fact, I come away with even more respect for the kind of energy in these foods. When you drink one Coke and it fuels you like a train for the last 15 rolling miles home, you become very wary about drinking one when sitting on a sofa!

[raknair]

@ KK - thats the one I take - http://www.healthkart.com/product/on-creatine-powder-creapure/NUT319

I am very conservative in my intake. I started off with 1.5 spoons daily for a week to get my muscles saturated with the powder and now I take only a teaspoon with a glass of apple or orange juice daily before I step out for my ride. I do not take in excess as I am a non-veg and I eat quite a lot of white meat / fish. I will stop it once TFN is over.

[raknair]

@ Minkey & Doc Rao - why do you not like Amway product ? I have never taken any of their products but I am curious to why it is a strict NO for you both.

[Minkey Chief]

@ Minkey & Doc Rao - why do you not like Amway product ?

Search for 'Scamway' or even just 'Amway' on Google--lots of stuff out there. Especially interesting is the analysis of Amway as a cult. I've also had personal experience with Amway recruiters, one of them over a few sessions with a couple who used to live in the same complex as we did. I got a good view into how the recruitment process works and the language they use. It's pretty scary. (Amway also goes by Quixtar in the US--a search with that name brings up a lot of stuff as well.)

I've also read and heard repeatedly (online and from people who've actually used them) that their products are really over-priced. They're not bad, but are priced as if they're way better than anything on the market. Amway people claim they are concentrated or more effective, and hence much cheaper in the long run. Lots of people who've tried their cleaning products say this isn't the case at all.

However, I've heard that Amway is working hard to change its image and change how the company works.

I'd said an Amway discussion didn't belong here, but wrote this post anyway. I can't ask anyone to not respond, certainly, but if you're an Amway supporter and upset by my post and want to war, please let's branch out to the Joint.

[cheewachai]

While I hate amway recruiters ... I like their car shampoo... even for cleaning bikes.

[hitanshu]

Two things:
- Amway products are decent and now ok ok priced. Esp the protein in particular. Of course we have an "amway gold etc business owner" in the family but when my wife was pregnant - I compared all products - Nutrilite has far less sugar. Amway's big packs are at par with stuff like Mama Horlicks/Threptin etc in price and their offer packs are actually cheaper. Yes, their cosmetics are ridiculously priced, and so are some supplements (garlic for eg). But the iron folic supplement is okay in price. Yes, the whole problem is the cult
- Most products like bournvita/horlicks are peasofshite. Bournvita (?) had 87% sugar in one of their packs, and others were 70% or so. Complan's memory booster has 12% fat and lists it in the "Vital Nutrient list" and says Fat is good for skin. LOL. the crap they'll write to sell any formulation!!

[bblost]

While I hate amway recruiters ... I like their car shampoo... even for cleaning bikes.

I use Clinic Plus Anti Dandruff Shampoo. It works quite well.
Sunsilk is also quite nice. But the former has a nice smell.

But the best shampoo for a car is easy to spot. Buy the cheapest one.

[wanderingwheels]

I use Clinic Plus Anti Dandruff Shampoo. It works quite well.
Sunsilk is also quite nice. But the former has a nice smell.

But the best shampoo for a car is easy to spot. Buy the cheapest one.

Really? I think the paint will fade if you use hair shampoo. Compare before-and-after pics.

[bblost]

My car is 2004 model. Paint looks decent.

In fact last week, I was taking a test drive of the new swift. The SA was complimenting the paint on my Wagon R.

The hair shampoo is mild enough on your skin. Its not gonna hurt the metal/ paint on a car.
If you are still worried, try Johnson's No more tears shampoo.

Just remembered. I also wax the car using Carbura after applying the shampoo.

[wanderingwheels]

Hmm, i will try it on my Yamaha some time. Thanks dude.

[krishna.sjc]

guys this is a thread on protein supplements not abt some shampoos

[Minkey Chief]

Hitman and Siva thanks for the feedback. Will update the opinion but am not sure if I'm ready to give them my money. Bad memories of my interaction with the cultists, as we called them. No insult intended to your family Amway person, Hitanshu!

[farazs]

Complan's memory booster has 12% fat and lists it in the "Vital Nutrient list"

Pretty sure it is *vital* in more ways than one, even more so in the growth phase.

and says Fat is good for skin

... which too is not categorically incorrect. Google that!