protein supplement - HELP

[anupd]

First question you need to ask yourself is if you want to be a good cyclist because weight training with supplements will build mass weight which you don't need for Cycling.

I think he wants to be an allrounder. I am doing the same. Cycling helps in reducing weight but I am already underweight for my height and age. So I am simultaneously doing weight lifting to increase muscle mass and stay fit. Basically I am doing cycling and weight lifting on alternate days for a month now and its already paying dividends

You don't really require protein shakes for cycling which is essentially cardio. Protein shakes mostly help those who are into body building and weight lifting.

^^ Not true at all. Muscle recovery is equally important as loading with Carbs for a ride. Most injuries and fatigue occur due to lack of recovery after rides and workouts and Protein is the key to recovery.

But protein supplements aren't necessary for cycling in my opinion. Muscle recovery can take place if one follows a protein rich diet consisting of normal everyday food items like milk, meat, fish, eggs etc.

Usually body builders need extra protein supplements to bulk up. That's what I have heard from gym trainers as well from various articles on the net. Since Krishna has plans to do weight lifting too, he can buy a can of Protein X and drink one glass immediately after workout.

[RNair]

But protein supplements aren't necessary for cycling in my opinion. Muscle recovery can take place if one follows a protein rich diet consisting of normal everyday food items like milk, meat, fish, eggs etc.

Usually body builders need extra protein supplements to bulk up. That's what I have heard from gym trainers as well from various articles on the net. Since Krishna has plans to do weight lifting too, he can buy a can of Protein X and drink one glass immediately after workout.

Firstly it depends how much one rides and how! Read my first and second comment on this thread. Why do you think you are underweight? And why do you think cycling will make you lose further weight? Maybe you are not eating right after rides yourself.

On all fronts wrong except yeah there are mass muscle builders in the market. None of the cyclists I know take it mass muscle builders. There are different kinds of proteins out there, there are different kind of workout in the gym to build lean muscles, there are all kinds of stuff one can do and eat.

[iceman1990]

Dude get Amway's Nutrilite protein supplement. Best in the world.
a lil costly though..
U can read bout it on the net too... Whey protein is good too, but its gonna upset ur stomach for a week at least (Needs time to get used too! )
But Nutrilite is good and has more proteins per gm of powder.

[raknair]

I shall share my experience on this in a while. I have been taking supplements lately but the amount of water I drink to neutralize its negatives is a lot. It depends a lot on how much you cycle. I have been put through some hard workouts for the past 6 weeks and supplements I take has been hugely beneficial.

[Minkey Chief]

I sometimes use whey protein powder and have never had stomach trouble. But I don't use much, and use it infrequently. I usually throw half a serving into a recovery fruit smoothie after long, hard rides, especially ones where I won't be able to eat for a while afterwards (say because I have to drive back home).

Dude get Amway's Nutrilite protein supplement. Best in the world.
a lil costly though..
U can read bout it on the net too... Whey protein is good too, but its gonna upset ur stomach for a week at least (Needs time to get used too! )
But Nutrilite is good and has more proteins per gm of powder.

I would have nothing to do with Amway, ever. That's a whole different story though, and doesn't belong here.

Also, I just compared their protein supplement (which is whey protein, by the way) with the one I use. The Trader Joe's whey protein has more servings in the can (15 vs. 14), more protein in each serving (33g vs 25g), has no sucralose, and is one third the cost of the Nutrilite equivalent. About $10 vs. about $30! The protein ingredients are the same for both.

Do note that the Nutrilite servings come individually packaged, so you'd expect them to be more expensive. But certainly not $20 more.

[bubbu64]

http://www.neulife.in/productmoredetail ... subcatid=4
This is what I have also been taking as a protein supplement apart from protinules. U need to drink lots of fluids though apart from a good workout. But U need to do a good workout to make this supplement effective. It can be a protein smoothie after a good cycling session or a good weight workout in the gym or even after running. Its best to drink a good protein drink post workout. http://www.neulife.in/storelocator.aspx?stype=1... should cost Rs 2500/- for a 10lb bottle.

[deepakvrao]

I would have nothing to do with Amway, ever.

Absolutely

[iceman1990]

@bblost - Its tough to get proteins out of raw foods these days . A person needs x gms of protein when ur weight is x kgs. Exercises and mostly endurance training breaks a lot of muscles and tissues, and so protein is required to continue the recovery process. Its only bout body building, but maintaining a body also requires proteins.

@Minkey-
Well i'm not sure why u don't like Nutrilite ! i'm not sure how much was the serving size u were trying to mention.
Coz for every 10g of protein, u get 8gm of proteins.
And Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid(PDCAAS) gave it the a score of 1 (Being the highest soluble protein supplement in the market). At the end of the day, its how much you digest that matters i guess !
Also the guy asked who asked on this thread is a VEG ! Plus don be such a wuss about sucralose, nobody's gonna ride on protein all day ! (SIC)

Not that whey is not good, i never said that, its just that it starts to upset your stomach at the start.

[krishna.sjc]

as far as cycling is concerned i look at it as a recreational sport. mostly a fun way to do cardio.

[Minkey Chief]

Well i'm not sure why u don't like Nutrilite !

No Scamway products for me, thank you.

Plus don be such a wuss about sucralose, nobody's gonna ride on protein all day ! (SIC)

I didn't get why you used (sic) there. Anyway, you really to need get more information on the stuff you're putting in your body. Sucralose is largely non-caloric, so you will be riding on protein all day. (Are you confusing it with sucrose?) So I'm not being a wuss about that. What I am a wuss about is artificial sweeteners and most artificial foods and ingredients. I'd much rather consume white sugar in moderation, processed food though it may be, than ingest weird chemicals with a noticeably bitter/medicinal aftertaste.

And during a ride, give me the sugar! A Coke saved me on the last long climb I was on.

Also the guy asked who asked on this thread is a VEG !

Not that whey is not good, i never said that, its just that it starts to upset your stomach at the start.

I'm a little lost here. I read my post again and I'm not seeing the connection. Do vegetarians (as against vegans) not drink milk? Also, I use whey myself, so I didn't suggest you said it wasn't good.

[hitanshu]

krishna,

unless u start riding like RNair, we just need electrolytes. rest is just marking BS.

[raknair]

As some of you know I have been working on a 3 training month programme designed by my brother. I am now 7 weeks into it and I have another 5 weeks to go before the much awaited grand tour begins in December. For the past 3 weeks or so, I have been introduced to Creatine. The initial idea was to consume Whey Protein but after reading a number of articles on the internet (though not full proof) I decided not to go for it. Most of the articles points whey protein to weight training and clearly says the risks involved to the kidney and liver. I drink milk (mostly it is milky tea ) at least half a glass a day. Orange juice is now 4-5 day affair. Since the training programme had begun on the 19th of September I have ridden over 1545 kms, averaging about 260 kms per week. The load factor is very heavy - one week ride include - regular intervals, ladder intervals, tempos of 30 & 45 mins, aerobic / endurance ride of at least 65 - 75 kms.

The stress levels have increased several times. Creatine has done wonders to me. The 1st week began with a teaspoon and half mixed with apple juice and now I take one spoon with cold milk or juice daily. The supplement is being taken keeping in mind the build up towards TFN. Unless you train like Baba Velo who rides close to 10,000 miles a year of which a good portion is spent riding on very high gradient and tuff conditions. I know I will stop taking the creatine once TFN is over. Since I get my regular protein and other vitamins through regular food I do not need supplements in the form of Whey or Creatine. The Creatine container clearly says I have to drink at least 8 - 10 glasses of water every day. I eat egg at least twice a week now.

I have a glass of juice with Creatine before I stop out for my morning ride. I feel very good in my legs and recovery part does not need any special mention. My legs feel very fresh. But I somehow feel nothing can replace this supplement as much as a good healthy food. Got to confess my vada pav intake has also come down to just one in a week.

[RNair]

One fact! None of these supplements will do anything unless you really get an intense workout day after day!

I do think unless you are riding competitively at the highest levels of the sports, one does not need any supplements. Natural deficiencies are a different case and needs medical advice.

[krishna.sjc]

I have been introduced to Creatine. The initial idea was to consume Whey Protein but after reading a number of articles on the internet (though not full proof) I decided not to go for it. Most of the articles points whey protein to weight training and clearly says the risks involved to the kidney and liver.

hmmm i went through some articles on net and most of them seems to say that Creatine has got more side effects that Whey protein both long term and short term.i guess the moral of the story is every supplements has got its advantages and disadvantages..

[raknair]

Yes ! that's the reason why you do not need supplements if you are an easy rider. The workout and intensity you put in is what that matters. I do not see myself taking it for too long. The only reason I take it is because I am required to do some very painful workouts and at the end of the day all I can think of it sleep and eat. lol.

All supplements have some negativism. I think it is meant for people who have some natural deficiencies.

Ra! says it clearly above "I do think unless you are riding competitively at the highest levels of the sports, one does not need any supplements. Natural deficiencies are a different case and needs medical advice."