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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby vinay_talks » May 12th, 2012, 1:27 pm

"All the existing problems in the world cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them in the first place "

I have been cycling since the past 20yrs and there have been countless times when dogs have tried to bark and attack but i have realized that Dogs do this only because they sense fear. I have always stopped my cycle and invited the dogs to come close , petted them and given them biscuits if i had some in my bag. My experience tells me that once you invite them close their sense of fear is gone and then they don't bark or chase you. I've actually become friends with the dogs on the street.

In my opinion attacking a dog is one of the most stupidest thing to do, Its only because some idiot has attacked them in the past that they sense this feeling of hatred/fear towards you.

Most animals(particularly Dogs) survive because of the mercy shown by Humans, hence even the thought of attacking them sounds very disturbing to me. If you find any particular dog that has gone insane then report it to the authorities and they will take care of it.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby raknair » May 12th, 2012, 1:41 pm

BZers have become too serious. The problem with us Indians is that we have come live with denial of everything.

1) Dogs chase and dog bite is an issue and we all know it. Why deny it ? Rabies are an issue, dog bites is not a one-off scenario.

2) Why does KK always bring cycling into it ? My comments have nothing to do with cycling and it is NOT related.

I often see people jogging / walking with stick in their hand these days where I live. The instances of dog showing aggression have increased. Now ! I did not actually mean I will go for the kill. But for sure I will not be standing there with biscuits in hand in front of an aggressive dog. Giving me smack gives me inhumane tag then so be it.

[img]If%20you%20find%20any%20particular%20dog%20that%20has%20gone%20insane%20then%20report%20it%20to%20the%20authorities%20and%20they%20will%20take%20care%20of%20it.[/img] - that is what I meant if you care to read properly. Take the aggressive ones out.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby SexJihaad9/11 » May 12th, 2012, 2:01 pm

raknair wrote:BZers have become too serious. The problem with us Indians is that we have come live with denial of everything.

1) Dogs chase and dog bite is an issue and we all know it. Why deny it ? Rabies are an issue, dog bites is not a one-off scenario.

2) Why does KK always bring cycling into it ? My comments have nothing to do with cycling and it is NOT related.

I often see people jogging / walking with stick in their hand these days where I live. The instances of dog showing aggression have increased. Now ! I did not actually mean I will go for the kill. But for sure I will not be standing there with biscuits in hand in front of an aggressive dog. Giving me smack gives me inhumane tag then so be it.

[img]If%20you%20find%20any%20particular%20dog%20that%20has%20gone%20insane%20then%20report%20it%20to%20the%20authorities%20and%20they%20will%20take%20care%20of%20it.[/img] - that is what I meant if you care to read properly. Take the aggressive ones out.


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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby RNair » May 12th, 2012, 2:11 pm

Stray dogs is a real issue and a serious health threat. I typically see them in such numbers only around the metros here, mostly due to negligence from the civic authorities. It is almost an epidemic now. Even the number of certain wild animals are controlled in the wild these days and that is totally legal.

But yeah if one bites me or threatens my life in a public space then forget about smashing the head, I am sending a b****t thru its head and I think I have the right to self defense.

Don't care what PETA thinks or anyone else, I will see them in court.

Having said that we have rescued a 3 legged dog from the streets here and these days he windsurfs on our boards. I understand the difference between sane and insane ones.

In parts of the world I live a dog is required to be on a leash at all times in a public space.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby cryptic_abbreviator » May 12th, 2012, 3:28 pm

RNair wrote:In parts of the world I live a dog is required to be on a leash at all times in a public space.


Next you'll tell me i have to vaccinate them and care for them and clean up after they poop.

all that will take away from my time to indulge in the national passtime of taking offence at anything, without understanding what I am offended about.

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby RNair » May 12th, 2012, 3:35 pm

I don't know how to contribute to this thread because this is a local metro problem. All I am saying is that if my dog went crazy on the street I would be held accountable by law. So for me it is a little difficult to understand why I would adhere to such laws if the streets were full of stray. If I got bitten by a stray Inspite of warning the authorities multiple times I think it is within my right to sue them. So all this might sound crazy and alien and weird but that is the reality out here.

I know it does not make much sense out there with what I have written. Haha. This has nothing to do with sympathy towards animals, more to do with civil order and health threats.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby shankarbn » May 12th, 2012, 4:56 pm

I'd definitely not hesitate to kill a stray insane dog if it bit me. It is self defense. Period. All those PETA or sympathy for animals people can get bitten, get some horrible disease, die a horrible death and then talk about sympathy. Say if a stray insane human bites you, would you be sympathetic? No, right? How are stray insane dogs special then?

And if dogs have a genetic problem of hating humans because it was humans who were originally the ones who brought up the whole hate thingy... epic facepalm! Your life is in danger because a stray insane dog wants to bite you to death and you're even thinking about being nice and solve a problem that has been haunting dogs and humans for generations? What are you on? ;)
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby kk27 » May 12th, 2012, 5:19 pm

Well my comment was not at you Rakesh or anyone else... it's on genereal things we crib about like I crib about hills!!! there are a whole host of issues out there, Dogs are just one small part of it!
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby cryptic_abbreviator » May 12th, 2012, 5:22 pm

kk27 wrote:Dogs are just one small part of it!


so they are an issue ?

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby cryptic_abbreviator » May 12th, 2012, 7:09 pm

wanderingwheels wrote:Yeah, the key is to act calm and slow down or stop. Many a dog has lunged, barking at me, only to wag its tail and get petted by me a few moments later. I've had only one scary moment, late in the night when I was surrounded by about 10 dogs and they thought I was Santa!!


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He just came in having completed their evening ride looking like a wet rat, jersey filthy, spitting mud and out of breath

that dog near yellowtrees I thought

Dyumna tells me the dog was there, both times (the route is a loop), came running up snarling as usual (and all aggressive in my interpretation, no wagging tail etc when i am the "victim") one his way out. ignored him on his return

He slowed down, almost stopped, pedals barely moving and talked to it on the way ( "good doggie" "why are you so angry dogling" ) as S has taught him, so it smelt him and got back to waiting for the next victim or whatever.

he was all out of breath because he had the wife's phone which he was protecting from the rain. also his shifters

this is one of the few roads he is allowed out by himself and the above is standard issue encounter. flashing tail lamp and headlight in the evening and this *will* happen

The dog in question is owned fed and maybe cared for as well, has a collar and all. It has knocked down a couple of motorcyclists between the two speed breakers it owns, rules and controls (if the iron walla under the tree is to be believed)

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby wanderingwheels » May 12th, 2012, 7:20 pm

Let me air my opinion and call it quits.

The fucking retards that we human beings are, we think that we can kill every other creature and have the globe to ourselves. The planet has been f^<ked up at such an alarming rate, in the past century, that it's beyond repair. I think it's because we are selfish and greedy. There's no shame in admitting it - that's how we are created. So, if someone wants to kill a stray dog - well, do it if you can, but remember that we are meant to share the space. If someone wants to help an injured dog, it's a good deed, I say.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby hitanshu » May 12th, 2012, 7:44 pm

kk27 wrote:Well my comment was not at you Rakesh or anyone else... it's on genereal things we crib about like I crib about hills!!! there are a whole host of issues out there, Dogs are just one small part of it!


I don't know, but honestly, you are mixing up too many things, and probably bringing some cyclists.in types hacktivism into this discussion which is solely about dogs. Most of us posting on this thread are not the flag waving "wheres my cycle lane"/critical mass people.

Dogs are NOT one small part of it. Maybe for you, but everyone has their unique perspective, no?
I have one dog that has a >90% attack rate (over almost 2 months now). You clearly have no such strong admirer of your calf muscles :p


wanderingwheels wrote:The fucking retards that we human beings are, we think that we can kill every other creature and have the globe to ourselves.


I completely disagree. Yes we did so - we are the fucking shit. We conquered this planet by blood and sweat of our forefathers. The single reason why we're not cowering from the elements in caves is because we went out there and fucking exterminated every single species and created sterile cities to live in (atleast the europeans - we Indians have just plain screwed up). And we should be fucking thankful for that.

Its very easy to sit in a climate controlled (even by fan or cooler or AC) room and talk this kinda crap because one doesn't need to worry about where his next meal will come from, or whether he will be attacked by wild animals, or how one will survive the weather, or have insects/reptiles crawl over one's living place. Seriously - go live a complete week in the forest, and then hopefully you will be thankful for how we have dominated the globe and had it to ourselves.

and its not about selfish/greedy/wanton destruction here. its about self-defence. Again, I invite you to go to a forest and attack a pack animal - choose wild dogs or wolves. Attack it regularly for a week, and then if you are still alive to tell the tale, we will ask you whether the animals haven't attacked you back because they're not selfish/greedy or any such logic.

EDIT: This post is simply about what WW wrote - and not that i support the silly/unsustainable pollution/population explosion we humans are causing. I think we should be proud of the fact that we have a cushy life because of the violence our species waged against all others - but that should not mean we should destroy the earth.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby DJD » May 12th, 2012, 7:46 pm

by kk27 » Today, 6:48 am

Our complex of flats in Mumbai where you could walk barefoot cause it was so clean, now regularly is used as the shitting alley for a bunch of strays that have housed themselves and reproduced.

There really needs to be a cull.

Simple solution - Get someone to clean, or relocate them!! simpler..... wear a chappal!!!


'Relocation' involves 'cruelty' in some way doesnt it? Or would you suggest serving them an eviction notice? Anyway, you miss the point, dog dung, with or without chappals is just as bad.

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Let me air my opinion and call it quits.



Again, its not about killing all animals -its about trying to address a subspecies that is breeding unchecked, spread disease both to humans and other animals.
I dont think anyone on this forum relishes animal cruelty
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby shankarbn » May 12th, 2012, 8:03 pm

DJD wrote:Again, its not about killing all animals -its about trying to address a subspecies that is breeding unchecked, spread disease both to humans and other animals.
I dont think anyone on this forum relishes animal cruelty

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby raknair » May 12th, 2012, 8:15 pm

shankarbn wrote:
DJD wrote:Again, its not about killing all animals -its about trying to address a subspecies that is breeding unchecked, spread disease both to humans and other animals.
I dont think anyone on this forum relishes animal cruelty

^This!


That is what I had in my mind. No one wants to kill dogs and my saying that I am gonna smash a dog head was not to be taken in literal sense. It is the aggressive ones that I am against. There is a dog in my building and trust me it is ridiculously friendly. We feed it almost daily and it has never ever attacked anyone. I have been watching it for almost a year now.

I get attacked quite often by not one but a pack of dogs on JVLR and they come from all directions. Someone mentioned above that points here have taken the direction that guys on CY.in usually takes. I got to agree with that. No one is talking of exterminating that species completely. My brother has a disabled stray in his house and it is well taken care of. I am not sure if you have seen a 3 legged dog windsurfing.

Anyways, my last point is this - Dogs known for attacking and being aggressive must be taken care of and that is, sadly again, put to sleep.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby shankarbn » May 12th, 2012, 8:20 pm

Incidentally, on thursday last, the dog infested road that I usually ride on had more dogs but none came near me. I think its because those ultrabright lights - you guys should try using super bright lights if you're riding in the dark and scare the hell out of those dogs.
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby cryptic_abbreviator » May 12th, 2012, 8:58 pm

raknair wrote:Anyways, my last point is this - Dogs known for attacking and being aggressive must be taken care of and that is, sadly again, put to sleep.


that dog which appears very aggressive to me, reconsiders making a chew toy of my son, routinely

I take a different route, Mr D and S can't be bothered (there are three speed breakers which he loves to jump).

Realted for shades of grey required conclusion

I know a retired col who lived on the outskirts His two sons were bitten, badly on their way to school about 4 - 5 years. The owner (next farm house) did not offer as much as an apology. No they were not trespassing

We have read reports about dogs running away with neonates from hopsitals - baby's best friend ?

Black and white ?

36% of the global fatalities]1] due to rabies are in India. The main reservoir of rabies in India is the dog.

About 17.4 million people were exposed to animal bites annually, he added. Pointing out reasons for the high fatality rate, U.K.-based Alliance of Rabies Control Executive Director Dr. Deborah J Briggs said, “India has a large dog population, which is also one of the reasons for the current situation.”


a news clipping here --> http://idaindia.org/photos/scan0002.jpg

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby thirugns » May 12th, 2012, 9:06 pm

Day 1 - Times of India, headlines "3 Men die of Dog Flu in India"
Day 2 - Huge debate in parliament about stray dogs
Day 3 - AIIMS doctors recommend giving "Dog Shots" to infected people [:D]
Day 4 - "Dog Shots" for humans too expensive, change of strategy...the dogs get shot
Day 5 - All animal lovers do a "Chaddi Parade" to protect the dog's human rights
Day 6 - TOI Headlines - 40 Chaddi Parade activists end up in ICU due to Dog Bites on their bums
Day 7 - Naga & Co in huge demand to "take care of the dog population"
A week later - Cyclists enjoy riding on the streets - no dogs chasing them
A month later - 5 Cyclists report being attacked by cats!!!

Back to square one!!!
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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby SexJihaad9/11 » May 12th, 2012, 9:28 pm

cryptic_abbreviator wrote:We have read reports about dogs running away with neonates from hopsitals - baby's best friend ?


A dingo ate my baby. No, really. :roll:

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby cryptic_abbreviator » May 12th, 2012, 9:29 pm

thirugns wrote:Day 6 - TOI Headlines - 40 Chaddi Parade activists end up in ICU due to Dog Bites on their bums [*]


[*] chamois defying bites administered by [bleep] [bleep] [bleep]

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby cryptic_abbreviator » May 12th, 2012, 9:31 pm

^^^
are we supposed to classify that as tragic ?

Meh

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby SexJihaad9/11 » May 12th, 2012, 9:35 pm

cryptic_abbreviator wrote:We have read reports about dogs running away with neonates from hopsitals - baby's best friend ?

are we supposed to classify that as tragic ?

Meh

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Nope, it was my attempt to classify your above statement as bullshit.

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby cryptic_abbreviator » May 12th, 2012, 9:39 pm

SexJihaad9/11 wrote:Nope, it was my attempt to classify your above statement as bullshit.


cant really be arsed to find a link for you

but wtf here you go http://www.goddiscussion.com/80344/stra ... egligence/

http://www.telugupeople.com/news/News.a ... 6&catID=58

http://mumbaimirror.com/index.aspx?page ... %22&from=0

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 524583.ece

maybe you should google for things besides .gif images ?

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby SexJihaad9/11 » May 12th, 2012, 9:51 pm

LOL. GOD DISCUSSION.com TELUGU PPL .com and of course MUMBAI MIRROR.com, the three world famous bastions of Pulitzer prize winning investigative journalism.

You sir, have won the internets. I lose. :lol:

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Re: Got bit by a Dog

Postby cryptic_abbreviator » May 12th, 2012, 9:54 pm

SexJihaad9/11 wrote:LOL. GOD DISCUSSION.com TELUGU PPL .com and of course MUMBAI MIRROR.com, the three world famous bastions of Pulitzer prize winning investigative journalism.

You sir, have won the internets. I lose. :lol:

aaaa haaa haaaaaa F*CK ME lol


okay you are the fucking cleverest person here QED

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