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Ride to Lions Point | Learnt some lessons, need help please.

Postby linuxtechie » July 31st, 2010, 10:44 pm

Folks,

Started off in the morning at about 4:45 in the morning. I had the Navigator all decked up with the Topeak Aero Wedge Pack and some other bag previous night. I had head-lamp and tail lamp deployed during the previous night and realized that was some good thinking, as the darkness followed me all the way till Vadgaon. Those lights blinking in the night made others aware of me.

Also, learning from previous experience, I had some chicken sandwiches packed with myself, I would end being hungry almost every 1.5 hours, get weak and tired, those muches helped me a lot (Thanks wifey). All said and done, hit the Lion's Pt. at about 8:05. I don't have any climb experience and that fact glared at my face during the climb, add into that there was some incessant rain happening, I was all soaked in no time.

During the climb realized following two:

[*] My front dérailleur had some problem, as I couldn't hit the left most gear. Not too much of a problem.
[*] My brakes were gone really weak, all tightening and it would be flat in next 10 mins. Does soaking have anything to do with it?

Realizing that above two are dangerous facts, I decided not to continue ahead and hit back ( I was planning to go as much ahead as I can, but felt all too much risky, since visibility was hardly up to some 10 meters). I had to walk back to climb's base, as I had no confidence on the braking. How do I avoid this problem?

Lessons learnt:
[*] Carrying your own food supplies makes plenty of sense.
[*] Avoid rain, but then where is the fun?
[*] Pleasure has to be mixed with the ride, just keep on pushing self to reach a place in shorter time is not really fun.


Due to brake problem, I returned back in slow pace, as it would take some time for braking to be effective. On way back, past Karla, Sumit waved at me, then somewhere past Vadgaon he overtook me. I was beginning to get tired by that time, realized that I was hungry had my last sandwich just before dehuroad. Reaching back home via traffic was really scary due to the brake issue, was going really slow due to this.

One temptation though, looking at the way Sumit sprinted on his road bike, I am very much tempted to get those thin tyres. Ditto when I was following Pranav on Kamshet ride. Ahh, but then the fun is not falling to temptation and winning over them. To his each own :).

Would I do it again? Yup, winning is not just matter of once, it has to be over and over, again and again.

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Re: Ride to Lions Point | Learnt some lessons, need help ple

Postby vkalia » July 31st, 2010, 11:08 pm

Was it on your LA Sovereign?

Brakes - it seems that the cable seems to be losing tension, from your description. Make sure the cable is seated in the proper groove in the brake mechanism and the locking nut is tight. Also, in the wet, pump your brakes a little to dry the rims.

Food - eat a carb-rich meal the previous night, pack stuff to munch on like bananas, cereal bars, peanut-butter sandwiches, energy drink, etc. Chicken sandwiches are not the most useful source of nutrition on a ride, nor are sugar-rich drinks. Read up on hammernutrition.com for some interesting theory on ride nutrition.

And keep riding!
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Re: Ride to Lions Point | Learnt some lessons, need help ple

Postby Praveen001 » July 31st, 2010, 11:50 pm

LT: Nice ride report. The derailleur problem probably just needs a limit screw adjustment - should be an easy fix. Regarding your brakes, brake performance is generally lower in wet conditions. The water on the rim reduces friction between the rim and the brake pads. Like Vandit suggested, pump the brakes a few times will help some by drying out the rims. Also check the brake cable tension and brake pads for wear. Traction between the road and the tires also is lowered in wet conditions - this will also cause slow braking. Regarding getting comfortable with hill climbs, you just have to practice climbing more. The more you ride the more comfortable you will be in riding longer distances and hill climbing.
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Re: Ride to Lions Point | Learnt some lessons, need help ple

Postby linuxtechie » August 1st, 2010, 9:46 am

vkalia wrote:Was it on your LA Sovereign?

Yeah, the navigator.


vkalia wrote:Brakes - it seems that the cable seems to be losing tension, from your description. Make sure the cable is seated in the proper groove in the brake mechanism and the locking nut is tight. Also, in the wet, pump your brakes a little to dry the rims.

Hmm, let me double check.

vkalia wrote:Food - eat a carb-rich meal the previous night, pack stuff to munch on like bananas, cereal bars, peanut-butter sandwiches, energy drink, etc. Chicken sandwiches are not the most useful source of nutrition on a ride, nor are sugar-rich drinks. Read up on hammernutrition.com for some interesting theory on ride nutrition.

And keep riding!

Thanks for the advice, had peanut-butter on my mind, however it got skipped. Yup, I need to ride a lot for some other reasons, however I think I missed the bus for same.


Praveen001 wrote:LT: Nice ride report.

Thanks.

Praveen001 wrote: The derailleur problem probably just needs a limit screw adjustment - should be an easy fix.

Yeah, not much of a problem.

Praveen001 wrote:Regarding your brakes, brake performance is generally lower in wet conditions. The water on the rim reduces friction between the rim and the brake pads. Like Vandit suggested, pump the brakes a few times will help some by drying out the rims.

Yeah will look into that.

Praveen001 wrote: Also check the brake cable tension and brake pads for wear.

I think pads have worn out, I need to replace them.


Praveen001 wrote: Traction between the road and the tires also is lowered in wet conditions - this will also cause slow braking.

Hmm, how do you feel this? Skidding? I never faced skidding, as the bike would always roll.

Praveen001 wrote:Regarding getting comfortable with hill climbs, you just have to practice climbing more. The more you ride the more comfortable you will be in riding longer distances and hill climbing.

Correct, Saturday is the day when I get time and there aren't many uphills nearby. Probably Pranav/Boni/Faraz/Sumit can correct me.

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Re: Ride to Lions Point | Learnt some lessons, need help ple

Postby sumitpal » August 1st, 2010, 10:59 am

Hey LT, Good meeting you during the ride. I was beginning to wonder if I was nuts riding in those conditions, meeting you took the edge off my misery :). I too realized that the conditions were not good for hard braking, luckily there are no major downhills on this route. NH4 has some bad potholes already, a week of rains and its turning into a badly maintained village road.

Try Pirangut/Mutha ghats if you want some climbing practice. Even the climb till Katraj tunnel is not bad, steady climb with gentle gradients.
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Re: Ride to Lions Point | Learnt some lessons, need help ple

Postby sujitk » August 1st, 2010, 1:09 pm

sumitpal wrote:
Try Pirangut/Mutha ghats if you want some climbing practice. Even the climb till Katraj tunnel is not bad, steady climb with gentle gradients.


+1 for the Katraj tunnel - return via the old Bhor ghat - short climb and a nice downhill, but then one gets the old satara road traffic.

Baapdeo ghat is one more good route for climb practice that I realized.
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Re: Ride to Lions Point | Learnt some lessons, need help ple

Postby bonigv » August 1st, 2010, 2:05 pm

Total agreement. Bapdeo ghat is the most VFM climb near pune. Lavasa far. Sinhaghad rocks but the rocks!,
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